Miracle at Cana - Čudo u Kani - Wunder zu Kana - Part-5

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What are you to me, dearest [dear] brothers in Christ, when [if] I can no longer enjoy your devotion, even though it still calls to me in someone's loyal heart, which doesn't dare beat freely... [or: ...even though it's still present in someone's loyal heart that yearns for me and dare not beat freely] [even though it may still call to me in some loyal heart], because it doesn't have me (I'm not there) to drive those heartbeats forever and ever in the days to come [when I'm no longer there to record it]; [when] I'm no longer there as a sacred [consecrated] bell, [to ring out] thunderously and boomingly boosting/strengthening the feeble tappings [uncertain beatings] of your wavering hearts at the gate of true life; no longer is the One who could have halted [No one knows how to halt] nature, saying: That's enough, stop now [Now that's enough, stop], get back within your inhuman [monstrous] limitations, into your soulless nothingness.

Šta je meni do vas, premila braćo u Hristu, kada više ne mogu da uživam vašu privrženost, čak i da me ona priziva u nečijem još uvek odanom srcu, koje ne sme slobodno da kuca, jer nema mene da te otkucaje vo vjeki vjekova zakucam u dane što idu, nema mene da kao posvećeno zvono gromko, ispolinski otkucam nejako kuckanje vaših kolebljivih srdaca o vrata istinskog života, nema jedinog koji je umeo da ustavi prirodu, govoreći: sad je dosta, sad stani, natrag u svoju neljudsku ograničenost, u svoju bezdušnu ništavost.

Aber was soll ich mit euch, liebste Christen Brüder, da ich eure Hingabe nicht mehr genießen kann, auch wenn sich doch noch ein treues Herz nach mir sehnt, das nicht wagt frei zu schlagen, weil es mich nicht hat die Herzschläge für immer und ewig in den kommenden Tagen einzutragen;

Vladimir D. Janković:

I think dearest is all right. Or, possibly, my dearest?

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Maybe when is even better than since or if?

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Because there is no me to hammer those heartbeats for ever and ever in the days to come.

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I’m no longer there as a consecrated bell, to strike uproariously and humongously that faint beating of your wavering hearts...

Miracle at Cana - Čudo u Kani - Wunder zu Kana - Part-4

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When not a single believer or leader of the pious Christian community was not convinced that Peter's sacrifice alone – there it is calling this offence God-pleasing courage [or: now there is a blessed courage for an offence] – in this treacherous night, pierced by a kiss and three shrill crows from the High Priest's rooster, saved our faith, and that only Peter, that foundation stone of the Church capable to crush men, was able, in continuo to preserve all that was of worth and of faith in them, which they would have, had they had lived longer, inevitably devalued and betrayed.
[When no single believer or Leader of the devout Christian community is convinced that only Peter's sacrifice preserved our faith, and that Peter alone, that foundation stone of the Church able to crush men, was enabled even in continuo to preserve all that was worthy and faithful among them, in order that they should live longer, ceaselessly divesting themselves of merit and renouncing their faith.]

Kada nijedan vernik ni glavar blagočastive zajednice hrišćana nije ubeđen da je samo Petrova žrtva – evo je zovem bogougodnom hrabrošću za prestup – u onoj izdajničkoj noći, izbodenoj s jednim poljupcem i tri šiljasta krika prvosvešteničkog petla, sačuvala našu veru, i da je samo Petar, taj kamen temeljac Crkve, sposoban da satire ljude, bio kadar i da in continuo sačuva sve što je u njima bilo vredno i verno, a što bi oni, da su duže poživeli, neizostavno obezvredili i izneverili.

Wenn nicht ein Gläubiger oder Herrscher der frommen/pietätvollen Gemeinschaft der Christen nicht davon überzeugt ist, dass allein Peters Opfer – na das nenne ich einen Gott-gesegneten Mut fürs Vergehen – in dieser tückischen Nacht, durbohrt von einem Kuss und drei spitzen Schreien des Hahns vom Hohenpriester [Hohenpriesters Hahn], unseren Glauben bewahrt, und dass nur Peter, der Grundstein der Kirche und fähig Menschen zu vernichten, in der Lage war das gute und treue in ihnen, in continuo zu bewahren, die Werte, die sie, wenn sie länger gelebt hätten, unweigerlich entwerten und betrügen würden.

Vladimir D. Janković:

I’d put it this way:

that Peter’s sacrifice alone – that is what I call a God-pleasing audiacity to transgress – in that treacherous night…

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to preserve all that was of worth and of faith in them, and which they would have, had they lived longer, inevitably devalued and betrayed.

 It’s a perfect, not a present tense!

Miracle at Cana - Čudo u Kani - Wunder zu Kana - Part-3

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But what are you to Peter when faith is nothing to you [you have no faith]; when you're only waiting for my third death rattle to be announced Urbi et Orbi before pouncing [falling] like a scourge [pestilence] upon the Lord's heritage, dividing what has been shared though indivisible, ripping apart what has been given to remain whole, squandering what has been offered to be cherished [dividing what is written to be as indivisible, violating what was given as inviolable, destroying what was offered as indestructible].

Ali šta je Petru do vas kad vama nije do vere; kada jedva čekate da se, pošto Urbi et Orbi bude oglašen moj treći ropac, kao pošast strovalite na nasleđe Gospodnje, deleći ono što je izdeljano nedeljivo, rastržući ono što je darovano neraskidivo, rasturajući ono što je pruženo nerasturivo.

Aber was soll Peter mit euch wenn der Glaube euch nichts ist/angeht; wenn ihr nur auf die Urbi et Orbi Verkündung meines dritten Todesröcheln warted bevor ihr wie eine Plage über Gottes Erbe herfällt; zu zerteilen was als unteilbar beschert wurde, zu zerreissen was als unzertrennlich vermacht wurde, zu zerstören was als unzerstörbar gegeben wurde. 

Vladimir D. Janković:

I think there is no reason to change that but. Or it should, maybe, be however?

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 The option with a scourge that is pouncing upon is very good, I think. Just an idea: maybe this scourge should be changed to a plague. And then this plague wouldn't be pouncing upon, but rather plunging upon, or maybe striking upon.

Miracle at Cana - Čudo u Kani - Wunder zu Kana - Part-2

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Let [May] this testament find you [, wherever you may be] of generous and not wooden heart, of thirsting and not sated soul and [with] ears wide open to the word of truth.
So, this is what is announced [address] to [all] the elders of the Christian communities by [is from] Simon Peter, son of Jona from Bethsaida of Gennesaret whom the Savior named Cephas and turned [changed] into the hard [firm] rock on which he built [based] his Church. To the glory of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit [Ghost]. Amen.
You're pleading [ask] for me to visit you, you're crying out [call] for me because I am indispensable to you; indispensable to Corinth, indispensable to Salonica, much needed in [imperative to] Jerusalem, irreplaceable to Athens, and heathenish Rome [which doesn't know God] can't do without me.
Deceivers! Blasphemers! Hypocrites! Haven't you learned yet that nothing is indispensable except faith and nothing is irreplaceable except faith. Neither catechism [doctrines] nor catechist, neither [prayer nor the] Creed nor believers. Only faith.
Do you mean to tell me that you don't know where I am, that you don't know that I'm rotting in a Roman prison and that tomorrow at dawn they'll crucify me on a cross from which already much flesh has fallen of your brothers in Christ [the flesh of your brothers in Chris is already falling]? Deceivers! Blasphemers! Hypocrites! [Hypocrites! Blasphemers! Deceivers!]

I da vas ovaj amanet nađe gde ste, podašna a ne drvena srca, vapijuće a ne presite duše, i uha raskriljenog za reč istine.
Ovo, dakle, starešinama hrišćanskih zajednica saopštava Simon Petar, sin Jonin iz Vitsaide genizaretske, koga Spasitelj prozva Kifom i skameni u tvrdu stenu na kojoj sazida Crkvu svoju. U slavu Oca, i Sina, i svetog Duha. Amin.
Molite me da vas obiđem, vapijete za mnom jer sam vam neophodan; Korintu neophodan i Solunu neophodan, preko potreban Jerusalimu, nenadoknadiv Atini, i Rim neznabožački da ne može bez mene.
Pritvorice! bogohulnici! licemeri! ne naučiste li do sada da ništa nije neophodno do vera, i ništa nezamenljivo do vera. Ni veronauk, ni veroučitelji, ni Vjeruju, ni vernici. Samo vera.
I smerate li da mi rečete da ne znate gde sam, da ne znate da trunem u rimskom zatvoru, i da će me sutra u zoru razapeti na krst sa koga već uveliko spada meso vaše braće u Hristu? Pritvorice! bogohulnici! licemeri!

Und das dieser/s Erlass/Geheiß Euch mit einem großmütigen und nicht hölzernen Herzen vorfindet, mit jammernder und nicht gesättigter Seele, und mit weit offenen Ohren für das Wort der Wahrheit.
Dies also, ist die Verkündigung an die Ältesten der Christlichen Gemeinde von Simon Peter, Sohn des Jona aus Bethsaida Genezareth, den der Erlöser Kephas nannte und in den harten Fels verwandelte, auf dem er seine Kirche baute. Zur Ehre des Vaters und des Sohnes und des Heiligen Geistes. Amen.
Ihr fleht mich an zu euch zu kommen, ihr schreit nach mir weil ich unentbehrlich für euch bin; unentbehrlich für Corinth, unentbehrlich für Saloniki, zwingend notwendig für Jerusalem, unersetzlich für Athen, und das heidnische Rom kann nicht ohne mich auskommen.
Betrüger! Lästerer! Heuchler! Habt ihr noch nicht gelernt, dass nichts unentbehrlich ist, außer dem Glauben und nichts unersetzlich ist, außer dem Glauben. Weder Katechismus noch Katechet, weder Glaubensbekenntnis noch Gläubige. Nur der Glaube.
Wollt ihr mir weismachen, dass ihr nicht wisst, wo ich bin; dass ihr nicht wisst, dass ich in einem römischen Gefängnis verrotte und in der Morgendämmerung/bei Tagesanbruch auf einem Kreuz gekreuzigt werde, von dem das Fleisch eurer Christlichen Bruderschaft schon lange abfällt? Betrüger! Lästerer! Heuchler!

Vladimir D. Janković:

May this testament find you… It is a more ordinary option, but still it’s closer to original.

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It might be yearning and not sated soul. Wailing is too noisy, too demonstrative; yearning is inside.

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I think turned into the hard rock is better than changed.

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You are asking me… , that’s how I would say. Why begging?

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… asking me to come to you is – in my opinion – stronger and better than visit you.

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You are crying out for me – better than the other option.

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Maybe much needed in Jerusalem…

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Here I would say the Heathenish Rome. The adjecitve heathenish is, I deem, more suitable than pagan here.

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Catechist is the right word, I wouldn’t change it.

Good News - Blaga vest - Frohe Botschaft - Part-11

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And Israel sacrificed fat sacrifices, burned precious offerings, prayed the prescribed [appointed] prayers, all in expectation of that inimitable [incomparable] savior whom John the Baptist in Aenon near to Salim foretold, saying: “Prepare [ye] the way of the Lord [;] and make his paths straight!”
And behold, the Scripture was fulfilled.
He came during the reign of Octavian Augustus.
This is the [true] tale [story] about him, his teaching and his disciples, his miracles and his suffering [passion]. This is the [true] tale of how his new kingdom above all kingdoms was born. And it was evening and it was morning. And it was Joshua ben Joseph, Jesus the Nazarene, Savior of the world.
Who knows on which day, every day.

A Izrailj je gojne žrtve žrtvovao, skupocene paljenice palio, propisane molitve molio, sve u očekivanju tog neuporedivog izbavitelja, koga je Jovan Krstitelj u Enonu blizu Salima najavljivao govoreći: „Pripravite put Gospodu i poravnajte staze njegove!“
I gle, Pismo se zbi. Za vlade cezara Oktavijana Avgusta, On dođe.
Ovo je pripovest o Njemu, Njegovom učenju i učenicima, Njegovim čudima i Njegovom stradanju. Ovo je pripovest o tome kako se rađalo Njegovo Novo carstvo nad carstvima.
I bi veče, i bi jutro. I bi Jošua ben Josif, Isus Nazarećanin, Spasitelj sveta.
Dan ko zna koji, dan svaki.

Und Israel opferte fette/feiste Opfer, verbrannte wertvolle Gaben, betete vorgeschriebene Gebete, alles in Erwartung dieses unvergleichlichen Erlösers, den Johannes der Täufer in Enon, nahe bei Salim, mit den Worten ankündigt: „Bereitet den Weg des Herrn und ebnet seine Pfade!“
Und siehe da, die Schrift war erfüllt. Er kam während der Herrschaft des Octavian Augustus.
Dies ist die Geschichte über ihn, seine Lehre und seine Jünger, seine Wunder und seine Leiden. Dies ist die Geschichte, wie sein neues Reich über alle Königreiche geboren wurde. Und es wurde Abend und wurde Morgen. Und es war Joshua ben Joseph, Jesus der Nazarener, der Retter der Welt.
Wer weiß, an welchem ​​Tag, jeden Tag.

Vladimir D. Janković:

The word „pripovest“ Pekić uses twice. With no adjective. Our distinguished translator made a reasonable variation – tale/story. What's more, he added the adjective „true“, hoping that the whole would seem more assertive, more adamant. I suggest that we should leave it with no adjective, just like Pekić did it, and use the same word twice. The word should be tale. There is, though, another possibly intriguing option: narrative. But narrative is too modern, too Latin, too written. So, the tale would be fine.

Good News - Blaga vest - Frohe Botschaft - Part-10

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And thus, instructed by the Lord, the prophet Isaiah said [to them]: “Hear ye now, O house of David; is it not enough for you to try the patience of men, but will ye weary my God also? Therefore, the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, Immanuel”

["Hear ye now, O house of David; it is a small thing for you to weary men, but will ye weary my God also? Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Emmanuel."]

And the prophet Isaiah again spoke: “He will be despised and rejected by men, experience pain and will be familiar with sickness, like someone from whom people hide their faces; He will be despised, and we won't value Him. Yet He will take upon himself our suffering and carry our sorrows, but we will think that God wounded him, beat him, and punished him. And He will be wounded for our rebellious acts, and beaten for our transgressions; He will be punished so that we can have peace, and we will receive healing from his wounds.”

[He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief; and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows; yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities; the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed."]

I stoga im, poučen od Gospoda, kaza prorok Isaije: „Slušaj sada, dome Davidov, malo li vam je što dosađujete ljudima, nego dojadiste i Bogu mojemu. Zato će vam [sam] Gospod dati znak: eto, devojka će zatrudneti i roditi sina Emanuila [rodiće sina, i nadjenuće mu ime Emanuilo].“

I još kaza prorok Isaije: „Prezren će biti i odbačen među ljudima, bolnik i vičan bolestima, i kao neko od koga svako zaklanja lice, prezren da ga nizašta nećemo uzimati. A on će bolesti naše poneti, i nemoći naše uzeti na sebe, a mi ćemo misliti da je ranjen i da ga Bog bije i kinji. Ali on će biti ranjen za naše prestupe, i bijen za naša bezakonja; kazna na njemu biće našeg mira radi, i njegovom ranom mi ćemo se isceliti.“

Und so, beauftragt/angewiesen durch den Herrn, sprach der Prophet Jesaja: „Höre doch, Haus Davids: Ist's euch zu wenig, dass ihr den Menschen zur Last fallt? Müßt ihr auch meinen Gott ermüden? Darum wird euch der HERR selbst ein Zeichen geben: Siehe, eine Jungfrau wird schwanger und einen Sohn, Immanuel gebären.“

Und der Prophet Jesaja sagte weiter: „Verachtet wird er sein und verlassen von den Menschen, ein Mann der Schmerzen und mit Krankheit vertraut; wie einer, vor dem man das Angesicht verbirgt, so verachtet wird er sein, und wir werden seiner nicht achten. Doch wahrlich, unsere Krankheit wird er tragen, und unsere Schmerzen wird er auf sich laden; wir aber werden ihn für bestraft halten, von Gott geschlagen und geplagt; aber er wird durchbohrt um unserer Übertretung willen, zerschlagen wegen unserer Missetat; die Strafe, uns zum Frieden, wird auf ihm liegen, und durch seine Wunden werden wir geheilt.“

Good News - Blaga vest - Frohe Botschaft - Part-2

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A descendant of the blessed Shem married the rich herdsman Avraham ben Terah [Abraham the son of Terah], Avraham Avinu; Abraham the forefather of (the) nations [his people], who traveling from Ur of the Chaldees into Canaan, once again heard the forgotten voice of the God of Adam: “Get thee out of thy country and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land which I shall shew thee. And I will make of thee a great nation.” Abraham obeyed and hastened on the mountain of Moriah to conclude an eternal alliance with God.

And there was evening and there was morning. And there was the Testament. Who knows on which day.

A izdanak blagoslovenog Simovog uda, imućni govedar Avram ben Tara, Avram Avinu; Avram Praotac naroda, gredući iz Ura haldejskog u Hanan, opet ču zaboravljen glas Adamovog Boga: „Idi iz zemlje svoje i roda svojega, i iz doma oca svojega u zemlju koju ću ti ja pokazati. I učiniću od tebe veliki narod.“ Avram posluša i pohita da na brdu Moriji sklopi večan savez sa Bogom.

I bi veče, i bi jutro. I bi Zavet. Dan ko zna koji. 

Eine Nachfahrin des gesegneten Shem heiratete den reichen Hirten Awram Ben-Terach, Awraham Awinu; Abraham, Erzvater der Nationen, der, unterwegs aus Ur in Chaldäa nach Kanaan, wieder die vergessene Stimme von Adams Gott hörte: „Und Gott sprach zu Abram: Geh aus deinem Vaterland und von deiner Verwandtschaft und von deines Vaters Hause in das Land, das ich dir zeigen will! So will ich dich zu einem großen Volke machen.“ Abraham gehorchte und eilte auf den Berg Morija, um einen ewigen Bund mit Gott zu schließen.

Und es wurde Abend und wurde Morgen. Und es ward das Testament. Welcher Tag. Wer weiß.

Maximilian Brust:

„Nachkommin“ ist vollkommen korrekt. Aber es ist in der weiblichen Form ungewohnt. Die Alternative Nachfahrin hat dasselbe Problem, vielleicht nicht so ausgeprägt. Im Englischen ist das unbestimmt. Wenn wir das nachbilden wollen (ich weiß nicht, wie sich das serbisch verhält), böte sich das undifferenzierte ‚Abkömmling‘ an, das Geschlecht erschließt sich aus dem Kontext. ‚Spross‘ bietet das auch, ist aber vielleicht wörtlich-semantisch weiter weg.

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„Nationen“ ist nicht die Entsprechung. Es wäre wohl ‚Völker‘, wobei, wenn es dezidiert das Volk Israel ist, dann ‚Stämme‘. Völker taucht aber auf.

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„Geh aus von deinem Land“; es wäre besser „von“ zu streichen; die eigentliche Präposition wäre … aus ‚aus‘ …, die Übersetzungen lassen es i.d.R. einfach fallen. Luther sagt außerdem „Vaterland“.